If it were me I would make a straight 17 Remington or a 17-204 which is about the same as the 17 Rem for the most part. Ackley also modified the venerable .22 Hornet, necking it down to .17, but Hornady’s 2011 release of the commercialized .17 Hornet grabbed some attention. 17 REM vs 22 hornet. An accurate .17 WSM is a good choice too, but still not anything like a .17 Hornet for longer shots. ... #2387923 - 01/07/13 04:24 PM Re: 17 Hornet vs 17 Fireball [Re: 1happyshooter] Mike B Die Hard Member III Registered: 01/31/02 Posts: 2715 Loc: central PA Last fall, my dad brought his new Savage M25 to Afognak, and after taking a few foxes with it, I knew I had to have one. Trajectory comparable to a traditional 55 gr 223 Rem, but the felt recoil of a 22 WMR. Massively better performance. Some loss of cases may occur during fireforming, but the 17 Hornet is a good one for single-shot rifle fans and exhibits decent ballistics for its size. , than differences.. factory rounds suck! I have the .17 Hornet and a .223. I'm just looking to build a new coyote rifle and was wondering about the difference between the Tac 17 & the 17 Rem. I do believe the 17 hornet will not be as hard on barrels as the 204! The new issue of Rifle has a review of the CZ527 for 22 hornet and they mention ed that the 527 can be had in a 222 remington. V-max - 5 fox - 4 of the 5 need sewn from large exit holes 1 coyote chest shot at 100 yards spun & run no recovery 204 Ruger 40 gr. Same C.O.L. Wow Your not Hi on the 223 or the 17s, I'm a 17/Hornet shooter from 1960 my first was built on my 1937-M-70 by P.O.Ackley in PA. I would not get rid of either of these little screamers. I also shoot .17 HMR, .222, .22 Hornet, and .223 in small caliber rounds. Dennis I have both the 204 and 17 hornet and believe you are correct. About two years prior to the birth of the 17 Hornet I had a custom 17 Ackley Hornet built on a CZ527. I have not taken a 22 PD shooting for quite a while. Last fall, my dad brought his new Savage M25 to Afognak, and after taking a few foxes with it, I knew I had to have one. .17 Rem (top) v .22-250 (bottom) Q: I own a Remington Model 700 in .17 Remington that has been rebarreled with a Maddco barrel 600mm long and shoots groups averaging .25". Give me some input on both rifles. For smaller sized game, the little 17 Hornet is one of the most fun little guns I own. and only 1 load for the 17 Rem. I'd combine one of the rimfires with a .17 Hornet. The small bore fouls easily, and you can see accuracy degrade in as little as ten shots in certain rifles, but they are a death ray on varmints and predators. Velocity is close to the .17 Remington but with significantly less powder, and therefore less heat and fouling. Mag.• .30-06 Springfield vs. .270 Winchester• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 8x57 Mauser vs. .318 Westley Richards• .358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum• .22-250 Remington vs. .220 Swift• .270 Winchester vs. .270 WSM• .26 Nosler vs. 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum• .458 Win. Had I had any idea the 17 Hornet was coming (even if the 17AH is 200 FPS faster) I would have done the 17 Hornet instead. Why is Remington pushing the 17 Rem. .17 Remington Fireball, in HuntingMag.com. Ackley who used it on much larger game, but such use is not typical. If it were me I would make a straight 17 Remington or a 17-204 which is about the same as the 17 Rem for the most part. Some would mention the .22-250 as the ultimate long range predator gun. I shoot just about everything suppressed but even unsuppressed the 17 Hornet isn't particularly loud and is MUCH quieter than my 204. P.S. Die Hard Member Registered: 03/07/13 Posts: 528 Loc: Freestone county Texas I own both CZ's and Savage's and to me yes the CZ is a much more quality rifle. In general I'd say there's at least 100 yards difference in consistent performance, maybe more like 150. This was with 9.3 gr of Lil'Gun with 20 gr VMax and Hornady brass. It was designed exclusively as a varmint round, though it is suitable for smaller predators.There are those such as P.O. I took some time yesterday and called Remington. The relatively new .17 Hornet filled the void perfectly for me. Get the American Hunter Insider newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and more—delivered directly to your Inbox. Mag. Mag. You will find the smallest commercial cartridges available are the .17-inch bores, and while they’ve been around exactly as long as I have, the shooting public seems to have an on-again-off-again relationship with the .17s. V-MAX bullet Same C.O.L. I can get about 3850 fps out of my 17 Rem with the 30's and the 4000+ fps barrier would just be just that little extra I'm looking for. and well the 25 grain vmax may be lighter then bullets you can get for the 22 hornet. Tip Lead Free bullets had an average velocity of 2752 f.p.s. I have a .17 HMR and I love it. I’m betting the .17 Hornet will hang in there, however, because it has a ready-made home as any gun chambered for the .22 Hornet can also be chambered for the .17. Less fouling, barrel wear, powder and pressure compared to the 17 Rem. I got a friend that is a coyote hunting machine and he swears by the 204. Fireball. The .17 Remington is an excellent varmint round, and the with a drop of just 3.17" at 250 yards this round is great for just that. Trajectory comparable to a traditional 55 gr 223 Rem, but the felt recoil of a 22 WMR. 17 Hornet 20gr. Remington has 2 loads for the 17 Rem. It feels even better shooting a projectile at more than twice the weight and twice the speed. the 17 rem is more then 300 fps over the hornet. Researched both calibers very well with balistics and reloading. The Remington Model 7 used to be available in .17 and it would make a good walking around varmint rifle. I like the 17 Hornet but do not really call it my coyote gun but would use it if under 100 yds. Same C.O.L. Ackley’s .22 Hornet was introduced by Hornady in 2011, likely to compete with Remington’s Fireball . Im looking at CZ 527s and just cannot make up my mind. The slight five-degree shoulder of the .22 Hornet was radically steepened to a 25-degree shoulder and blown-out to increase case capacity. Mag.• .404 Jeffery vs. .416 Rigby• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Creedmoor• .300 PRC vs. .300 Win. 17 Hornet vs 17 Fireball - posted in Varminter Magazine - Main Hunting Discussion Forum: I am simply curious as to the opinions of others. Thanks They said the 17 Hornet is on the watch list and if they get enough response (emails preferred) from customers wanting one they will build it. The Bill Eichelberger line of cartridges uses .10-inch, .12-inch and .14-inch diameter bullets, though they are about as rare as hen’s teeth. Ackley who used it on much larger game, but such use is not typical. Owning a .17-caliber rifle comes with its own set of challenges (a specialty cleaning rod must be ordered, and it’s very easy to wedge a patch in the bore), but among the centerfire choices, including the .17 Fireball, I like the .17 Hornet. 17-223 IS NOT a 17 Remington! Being able to use good Lapua brass is another plus. No matter how you launch one of the 20 or 25-grain bullets, their weight and ballistic coefficient are so low that it makes the effects of wind deflection a definite consideration. Die .17 Remington basiert auf der .223 Remington oder der .222 Remington Magnum, je nachdem, welchen Bericht Sie lesen, aber wenn ich mir das Design ansehe, macht die .222 Remington Magnum für mich mehr Sinn. vs. .458 Lott• 7mm Rem. DRT your taking something home. Some of the newer CZ's have a pretty rough action from the factory. The latest of the SAAMI standardized centerfire .17's is the .17 Hornet, designed and introduced by Hornady. We now had .17 caliber varmint cartridges that could be compared to the .22 Hornet, .22-250 and .220 Swift; three of the four major velocity niches occupied by established centerfire .22 varmint cartridges. I have a .17 HMR and I love it. Sharing the rimmed design of the parent case, the .17 Hornet feeds nicely in a bolt-action repeating rifle—I spent some time with a Savage Model 25 Walking Varminter which shot very well—and will handle both varmints and predators to the same 300 to 350 yards that the .17 Remington will. As far as I know, Remington is the only major arms manufacturer currently producing .17 Remington and .17 Fireball rifles. I have both, 17 Hornet and 204, both are CZ 527 Varmint models. It was designed exclusively as a varmint round, though it is suitable for smaller predators.There are those such as P.O. as the 22 Hornet – uses the existing action Trajectory comparable to a traditional 55 gr 223 Rem… as the 22 Hornet (uses the existing action). The 17 Rem is a heck of a little round IF and only IF you reload! 17-223 IS NOT a 17 Remington! Both are important issues to high-volume shooters such as varmint hunters. Mag.• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Remington• 7x57mm Mauser vs. 7mm-08 Remington• .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum• .338 Winchester vs. .375 H&H Magnum• .30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington• .257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage• .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington• .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser• .416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum• .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield• .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie• .300 Win. It is based on the .223 Remington case necked down to .172 in (4.37 mm), with the shoulder moved back. The .17 Hornet, son of the classic .22 Hornet that our grandfathers delighted in shooting, is a well-balanced design. I liked it so much that I bought a 700 VS and had it rebarreled to a .17 Rem with an HS-Precision barrel. P.S. My collection will always include a .223 and .308 rifle. More recent cartridges like the .17 HMR, and the .17 Fireball have been released in the last 10 years and have given other similar rounds some competition. Hornady has new brass for .17 Hornet. The .17 is not as quiet as the Hornet and adds the additional complication of requiring .17 caliber bullets and cleaning rods which are not always easy to find. Fireball. but they chamber 8 rifles in the 17 Rem. The .17 Remington was introduced in 1971 by Remington Arms Company for their model 700 rifles.. I have owned two of them. vs. .300 Win. The taper of the case is different and the shoulder is 25 degrees necked down to the .17 bullet. 17 HMR VS 17 HORNET I like the 17 Hornet it does something crazy like 3600 fps Any input on ether the 17 HMR or the 17 HORNET Thanks….. .17 Remington or .17 Hornet. It’s a bonified 350-yard coyote cartridge that’s currently chambered for Savage’s Model 25 bolt action . I have a thing for small bore rifles. The .17 Remington was introduced in 1971 by Remington Arms Company for their model 700 rifles.. Both shoot better than I can shoot them. 17 REM vs 22 hornet Rifle. Less fouling, barrel wear, powder and pressure compared to the 17 Rem. factory rounds suck! Kudos to Hornady for recognizing the potential of the design, and for bringing it to the masses. The 17 Remington Fireball, based on the classic .221 Remington Fireball case, is an extremely well balanced cartridge that provides laser-flat trajectory, with match grade accuracy, all in a compact package that does not require excessive maintenance and won’t burn out barrels. Most of us are now familiar with the .17 HMR (Hornady Magnum Rimfire) and its centre-fire predecessor, the .17 Remington. The 17 Rem is a heck of a little round IF and only IF you reload! Is it more accurate? The 17 Hornet – an economical, fun .17 caliber centerfire cartridge that puts the STING on varmints out to 300 yards! Die Hard Member Registered: 03/07/13 Posts: 528 Loc: Freestone county Texas I own both CZ's and Savage's and to me yes the CZ is a much more quality rifle. The .17 Hornet is a .17 caliber centerfire rifle cartridge originally offered as a "wildcat cartridge" developed by P.O. The muzzle velocities generated by the .17 Hornet run considerably slower than the .17 Remington—3650 fps for the 20-grain load, and 3870 fps for the lighter 15.5-grain NTX load from Hornady—yet the pressures, barrel wear and fouling are also less than those associated with the larger-cased .17 Remington. I have been thinking about buying a Savage 12VBSS in 223 Remington and rebarrel it to either 17 Rem or 222 Rem. out of the rem and the 17 hornet i would pick the rem. Fireball. But if you really want a 17 and want to kill coyote consistently I would stick with the 17 Fireball or 17 Rem. The muzzle velocities generated by the .17 Hornet run considerably slower than the .17 Remington—3650 fps for the 20-grain load, and 3870 fps for the lighter 15.5-grain NTX load from Hornady—yet the pressures, barrel wear and fouling are also less than those associated with the larger-cased .17 Remington. The 20-grain bullet can be pushed to over 4200 fps, and the 25-grain bullet breaks the 4000 fps mark, as well. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum vs .22 Hornet ammo rounds. 17 Remington Rifle Cartridge by Nosler Inc. TECHNICAL INFORMATION: Based on a necked down 223 Remington case, it is generally chambered in bolt rifles, but could be used in AR platforms. I am having problems with my .17 HMR. The latest of the SAAMI standardized centerfire .17's is the .17 Hornet, designed and introduced by Hornady. Ackley in the early 1950s. vs. .300 WSM• .223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington, E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: EmediaHunter@nrahq.org, For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org, You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. T he .17 Hornet is the quintessential mid-range varmint cartridge—regardless if you’re hunting east or west of the Mississippi River. it is also better in the wind then the hornet. 22 Hornet drops 5.8" and is blown off target by 7" in a meagre 5 MPH cross wind The 17 Hornet - drops only 2" and drifts 2.8" in comparison. And having a 17 Hornet for the longer shots make sense. I also had one of the 700 Classics, just to try out. But, within 350 yards or so, the .17 Remington makes a great varmint and predator cartridge, as the frangible bullets make very small holes in a furbearer’s pelt—and usually don’t exit—yet have enough energy and a flat enough trajectory to place shots accurately on woodchucks and prairie dogs, creating that famous red mist. I am looking at a h&r .22-250 with a heavy barrel and the remmy 700 LVSF in the 17. It feels even better shooting a projectile at more than twice the weight and twice the speed. We've got you covered.• 7mm RUM vs. .300 RUM• .308 Winchester vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .260 Remington• .303 British vs. 8x57 Mauser• .30-06 Springfield vs. All Other .30s• .17 HMR vs. .17 WSM• .450 Nitro Express vs. .470 Nitro Express• 350 Legend vs. .35 Remington• .280 Ackley Improved vs. 7mm Rem. I weighed everything they said, but found myself looking more and more at the .17 Remington. Very nice caliber for varmints! I don't use magnum primers because I believe they actually degraded accuracy in my loads. Friday, December 20, 2019. Werfen wir einen Blick auf die .17 Remington und die .17 Hornet und vergleichen und vergleichen wir ihre Eigenschaften. The Hornet ammo—available from Hornady and Federal—runs between $0.70 and $0.90 per round, while the .17 Remington ammo—available from Remington and Nosler—costs about $1.70 per round. Hunting Ammunition : Best Bullet For Your Game Without Destroying It. The AccuTrigger is crisp, breaking cleanly at 1.134kgs and recoil is too light to be felt which results in the rifle sitting steady on a rest with no perceptible movement. The 17WSM I have seen work over prairie dogs was impressive but the 17HMR is a much better choice for a rimfire rifle. This short cartridge was initially chambered in Remington’s XP-100 bolt-action single-shot handgun. Cartridges like the .204 Rug., .17 Rem., and .223 Rem., on the other end of the spectrum, typically blow huge holes in the hides. .17 Hornet This .17-caliber version of P.O. The bolt face is the same size, but case dimensions are completely different. I like the Hornet a lot but for practical handling and varmit blasting, the .204 s hard to beat with its .222 Mag case and .204 bore which is much easier to clean and manage than the .177. Remington doesn't even chamber a rifle for the 17 Rem. 17 Remington is the 222 Mag necked down with shoulder bumped back. Fireball VS .17 Remington Just curious about my options. I've owned every type of 17,out there I stop reloading when Hornady & Remington came out with loaded rounds.FYI 17/Hornet Ammo is cheaper then 17WSM. I can get dies for both, brass is easy for the .17 Rem when .223 cases are around. 17 vs .22-250 - posted in Guns, Loads, Optics and Gear for Varmint Hunting: I am buying a new varmint gun to shoot pd's and coyotes. The new issue of Rifle has a review of the CZ527 for 22 hornet and they mention ed that the 527 can be had in a 222 remington. He created this non-factory (wildcat) offering by simply necking-down the .22 Hornet to .17 caliber and fire-forming the resized cases in his new chamber design. It is based on the .223 Remington case necked down to .172 in (4.37 mm), with the shoulder moved back. Although as most people in this world I am a little bias as toward my own. Looking at the ballistics, the 17 Rem. #2808223 - 03/04/15 04:14 PM Re: .17 Hornet vs .17 Remington [Re: TheWolf57] AubreyD. For smaller sized game, the little 17 Hornet is one of the most fun little guns I own. I shoot just about everything suppressed but even unsuppressed the 17 Hornet isn't particularly loud and is MUCH quieter than my 204. I’m betting the .17 Hornet will hang in there, however, because it has a ready-made home as any gun chambered for the .22 Hornet can also be chambered for the .17. .17 Hornet calibre review. But, for the hunter who wants a rifle that can reach out for the occasional 150-yard shot, without the report of the smaller centerfires — like the .17 Hornet and .17 Remington — the .17-caliber rimfires have an appeal. v -max 4 coyote DRT ( dead right there ) no pass thru 1 fox couple exit holes need sewn / not as bad as 17 holes You hit bone get out the needle. The .223 Rem. The introduction of the .17 HMR in 2002 rekindled the flame which was started by the .17 Remington in 1971. The easy rimfire is the HMR, partly because ammo is so available, and partly because the A17 ammo in a bolt rifle comes pretty close to .17 WSM ballistics. The Remington Model 7 used to be available in .17 and it would make a good walking around … Basically just a fun toy for plinking paper. 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